A People’s History is one of Zerzan’s most boring. Good for you finding new reads that you enjoy - that's what it's about. Published by elcoquidepuertorico. I think there is a huge audience for which, for various reasons, actual books on philosophy will never be very accessible. View all posts by elcoquidepuertorico Share this: Twitter; Facebook; Like this: Like Loading... food for brain . Title: Ishmael Author: Harper Kingsley Genre: murder mystery, suspense, different era Characters: Major Ishmael Dupres, Captain Etienne Barnard “I don’t know how my life got to this point. When they reach puberty, children begin to encounter new values, values not fostered by you. Home; Make sense; Pictures. A place to make fun of stupid posts in other subs about books. The central tenet seems to be that Taker culture, in its present course, has harmed and will eventually destroy the environment. Perhaps he is, Melville says, echoing thoughts I had during the last couple of chapters about the death of the poor whale. This is false. It will just be a book that kids will enjoy (and that has no investment in Taker attitudes). I’d recommend Future Primitive Revisited and his Against Civilization anthology. I could not recommend it enough. And if a given percentage of human beings were doomed to suffer, say ten percent just to put a number to it. It is our intent and purpose to foster and encourage in-depth discussion about all things related to books, authors, genres, or publishing in a safe, supportive environment. score: 28 of 132 (22%) required scores: 1, 16, 23, 30, 41 list stats leaders vote Vote print comments. To embark at the beginning, please click here. I spend my life pursuing it, building upon it. So I'll only hear about half of it, and I'll only remember the parts that confirm my biases. Michael Spencer. There is an excellent interview with Quinn that I recommend everyone watch as well. Even the three-item format is compelling on its own! This is one of the most important acts of being human. If you have not read any of them, there is of course a Wikipedia summary of Ishmael (though it is a lot more enlightening to read the Socratic-type dialogue between the characters in the novel, and mentally join in that dialogue). EDIT: I've been a lurker for some time now... Wow, first thread I post made front page! And this really isn’t news to most of us. To add to u/lvltwo 's comment below, by discussing modern human society from the point of view of an "anthropologist from Mars" (which the author describes himself as elsewhere), it forces you to see and judge your social background and environment in ways that might never have occurred to you otherwise, unless you are somewhat well read in philosophy. Ishmael and Queequeg are depicted in bed together several times and are frequently described as “married” or “wedded” to each other. type to search. But I feel so strongly about the topic matter that I’m taking that risk. Ishmael states that other species do not attack competitors. Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice & Santa. 29 Shares. Press J to jump to the feed. If you don’t really embrace Ishmael‘s values, neither will your children—even you give them an Ishmael-for-children book.) I don't necessarily agree with every point Quinn made in his works, but for the most part it seemed like I was reading a more organized version of the ideas and observations floating in my own mind. Skip to content. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDaOgu2CQtI. Tell me if I’m right. ALSO! This Quinn does in Ishmael, The Story of B (which is really the sequel to and advancement of the ideas presented in Ishmael, My Ishmael, and other of his books. All in all, an interesting book. Previous Post Books lists from goodreads. Details * I recently read a book called Ishmael, and even before I finished it I felt a need to write about it. This will not be the normal Surviving Prepper post. Obviously humans aren't rats, but our population did explode once agriculture was discovered, so we not totally different in this regard. Call me Ishmael “Moby-Dick” by Herman Melville a88910233e176ef4489b 52d686f326d7ff9ccff6 86065a44cbd366538450 8ad6 Compressed 121qcemzF3HHsvhggufE XNedHncAzzT41T: Uncompressed 168z2uEg5Shzsgknq561 oefN2xmLpjZUvH: It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife Ishmael, the book which won the one . Book excerpt: "Little Family" by Ishmael Beah. The audience of Ishmael could be said to primarily be people who specifically haven't read those philosophy books. As many of you said, this book makes an impact on those who are impressionable to this genre of philosophy. We know this as the Abrahamic Covenant, that promise between God and Abraham. Tweet. Press J to jump to the feed. Incorrect Book The list contains an incorrect book (please specify the title of the book). Share this: Twitter; Facebook; Like this: Like Loading... Related. I checked out Derrick Jensen's Endgame from my local library but I'm too slow of a reader so I'm contemplating on just ordering it. Spam or Self-Promotional The list is spam or self-promotional. I'd have to disagree - sorry :( I've read and loved so many philosophical works recommended in this thread but I've also really enjoyed Daniel Quinn books. I am a biochemistry major who buried herself in science and didn't give much else much of my attention. So this book confirmed those feelings and thoughts for me. Certainly through teaching and sharing of ideas, but what did you have in mind when writing this book? Look into the Story of B if you really liked Ishmael ;). But it's still what made you yearn for more, yes? Had a massive impact on me. But one warning is not to make a lifestyle out of what he advocates. I always thought he was just referencing Moby Dick though (never read that one either). If you're looking for help with a personal book recommendation, consult our Weekly Recommendation Thread, Suggested Reading page, or ask in r/suggestmeabook. After Ishmael, read Endgame by Derrick Jensen. In the Bible we read that God promised Abraham (Abram) that he would have an heir and that, in fact, his seed would be so many that they would be as the stars (Genesis 15). Never stop. Lo and Lee and Ta. Ishmael was assigned reading for my athro class. share. It'll be my next audible book. Queequeg Ishmael is on Facebook. I cannot say… Cloud. A children’s book of my own will appear in the next year or so, but it won’t be a “teaching” book like Ishmael, The Story of B, and My Ishmael. In fact the “normal” person these days: 1. This book was worth reading but many parts bothered me. There have been any number of geographical communities or groups initiated throughout the years by readers of Ishmael and Daniel’s other work. The biggest take away I had from Ismael or maybe it was Story of B, was the correlation between food supply and population. It also raises questions that most students at this age had not even thought of before. Now say that with the swell in food supply we actually manage to get the percentage of people who die of starvation down to 1 percent or heck even 0.5% We are still talking about 35,000,000 people suffering from this tragic end. Walter Sokolow (who saved Ishmael and also a Jewish man) came across a painting of a gorilla named Goliath that seemed to be a "symbol for the Nazi giant that was then engaged in crushing the race of David". When I read for the first time, i too, thought it was amazing. The Technological Society by Jacques Ellul is a good book also. It’s just that the majority of us simply don’t think about it. You yourself admit you thought it was amazing when you read it. I know I've heard Chris Hedges talk about this book several times. By pointing this out, he seems to be blaming women for population growth. I believe that we are headed for some sort of problem, but I’m not sure that … There's a documentary along the same lines worth checking out called "Koyaanisqatsi" - a Hopi word that means "life out of balance." 100% Upvoted. Since the food supply is always the most important determination of the size of a population, more food = more people. And mention in the Book, Ishmael. Join Facebook to connect with Queequeg Ishmael and others you may know. The Poisonwood Bible by Barbara Kingsolver contains a lot of the same themes, even if it’s not explicitly about collapse. I find the ideas presented very important. Walter Sokolow (who saved Ishmael and also a Jewish man) came…more I know this is late but in the start of the book, Ishmael's name was originally Goliath. It will just be a book that kids will enjoy (and that has no investment in Taker attitudes). “What the white whale was to Ahab, has been hinted; what, at times, he was to me, as yet remains unsaid,” starts Ishmael, and then precedes to say, say, say—-and yet he tiptoes around the calamity at the book’s climax. The almost fairy-tale simplicity of the writing style makes it extremely digestible and enjoyable. So, let’s have a look on the second image below that represents exactly how you’d start Flipping’ some pages in Flip Books. The book hasn't changed, you have. Overview. It must be some phobia of success.” Looking at the words printed on the paper, Ishmael wasn’t sure what to think. It doesn’t bring its … I like Baraka better. Ishmael Amuli revealed that Jah Prayzah came to give condolences at Moana’s funeral but he never reached out to him. Imagine how well these books would sell: Mockingbirds and Trials and Families. 19,130 views from reddit.com. I received this book lately. This book made a thousand light bulbs in my head turn on. Examples of book titles which reflect this are Faisal Malick’s Here Comes Ishmael, a call to Christians to reach out to Muslims, Martin Gilbert’s In Ishmael’s House, a history of the Jews under Islam, and Israel and Ishmael: Studies in Muslim-Jewish Relations, edited by Tudor Parfitt. This is a moderated subreddit. Melville uses the vocabulary of love and marriage to suggest the strength and closeness of the bonds between men at sea. And endeavoring to understand the world almost inevitably leads to challenging it to improve. Purchase Ishmael: An Adventure of the Mind and Spirit from your local bookstore, or online with the author's affiliated link, if preferred. In the opening pages of Moby-Dick, that most famous of fishing narratives, Herman Melville’s narrator, Ishmael, imagines that on any “dreamy Sabbath afternoon, posted like silent sentinels all around the town, stand thousands upon thousands of mortal men fixed in ocean reveries.” I love this image: that harbored within all men is an inexpressible desire to be near water. It is great because it is a wonderful entry into the realm of philosophy. In dreams and imagination, ideas are born that then become reality. The audience of Ishmael could be said to primarily be people who specifically haven't read those philosophy books. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. We are no longer self sufficient. Ishmael has occasionally been banned from use in specific schools or courses, but you don’t hear about it because this isn’t newsworthy, since it’s not a household word. the total number of individuals suffering on the planet at any one time) is still massively increased. I love listening instead of reading. I recommend this book to everyone who reads. Overview. The book features gay marriage, hits out at slavery and imperialism and predicts the climate crisis – 200 years after the birth of its author, Herman Melville, it has never been more important First Ishmael makes incorrect statements about how nature works, and asserts that humans have violated these rules, which is the source of our discontents. Welcome to the discussion of Ishmael by Daniel Quinn. Close. You yourself admit you thought it was amazing when you read it. avg. I'd recommend the original Dune series of books by Frank Herbert. “There is no one right way for people to live” is a statement made over and over again in Daniel’s books, and just as there is no one right way for people to live so there is no one right way for people to be an Ishmael community. I just read Ishmael and found it thought provoking in many ways. Ishmael Beah: The use of dreaming was and remains important to me. Years and Years and Years (of Solitude). I recently picked up a book from my local library called Ishmael by Daniel Quinn. Spen… But after you got your foot in the door, you could say exactly what you wanted which explains why The Story of B is such a hard-hitting book. I certainly went through the same thought process as well, where after meditating on the book for a while, found that there was no real substance or practical application with his ideology. I recently picked up a book from my local library called Ishmael by Daniel Quinn. Human population growth is logistic. It is probably one of the best books for describing the situation that we species are facing at this very moment. PGP fingerprint: 5A1D 9099 3497 DA4B Contact this reporter at email@example.com. Post navigation. I grew up with oral tradition storytelling that taught me the importance of dreaming and imagination. (This ghost will foreshadow but not spoil.) The rat comparison is misleading. Totally agree, it's an impactful book. 44.5k members in the bookscirclejerk community. The book hasn't changed, you have. We seek to deepen our understanding of collapse while providing mutual support, not to document every detail of our demise. check recommendations on reddit. It’s not that we are unaware. Inappropriate The list (including its title or description) facilitates illegal activity, or contains hate speech or ad hominem attacks on a fellow Goodreads member or author. All these comments got me curious. The thoughts and views presented in Ishmael were always in the back of my head somewhere, but that's where they stayed until now. When they wake in the Spouter-Inn, Queequeg has his arms around Ishmael in a seemingly conjugal embrace. I hope this post will open some eyes. 1. [https://amzn.to/2Q7Blg9] For people that have already read Ishmael, I'd like to recommend reading My Ishmael, which is a fictional story that takes place during the events of the first book. I read Technological Slavery a few years back, just to see what his motivation was; and I do agree with a lot of what he says about the pitfalls of technology - just not his method of dealing with it. Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice & Santa. And the kicker is that it's already happened. As crimes go, arson is a form of transgressive escapism. Books shelved as reddit-top-200: 1984 by George Orwell, Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut Jr., The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. It's not that great. Express your thoughts as a free-form comment below, share whatever may come to mind! We didn't cure the suffering in the world; we've drastically reduced the likelihood of being afflicted, sure, but the absolute amount of suffering (i.e. We depend on the collective whole to provide for us. However, that does not remove from the fact that it in itself is a fantastic book for high school students and those who have not ventured into the field of philosophy before. I will definitely follow through. THIS BOOK IS ILLUSTRATED! I was delighted to discover that the topics discussed in the book paralleled some of my values, as promised. And for me it was the logical extension of this idea. That's part of a three parter. Most often it’s banned in what might be called a passive way. But then I read more then one philosophy book, and now I realize that nothing he proposes in his book is that radical or intelligent. That applies to me. It definitely got me thinking about our situation. This book is loved by most of the readers from around the world because it is based on the firsthand account of Beah’s time as a young soldier in the civil war which started in the 1990s in Sierra Leone. Uh, Melville says, “Well, so what? It puts a lot of things in perspective. Thanks for sharing your thoughts, both the positive and negative (that's what I asked for after all). Ishmael Beah is a well-known author from Sierra Leone. April 1, 2017 elcoquidepuertorico. Ishmael Toroama Photo: Facebook After the 23rd and final elimination, Toroama had 48,766 votes but crucially, under the preferential voting system, the absolute majority needed had fallen to 39,728. I’m sure there would be great reader interest in having translations of The Story of B, My Ishmael, and others of your books. Encounters – Rencontres → Ishmael. How has it changed the way you live/think? American Fire, by Monica Hesse, and The Library Book, by Susan Orlean. time TED TURNER fellowship 1 in the . Or, more so what to do with it now that I have received it. If so, share anything and everything:). (19:54) وَاذْكُرْ فِي الْكِتَابِ إِسْمَاعِيلَ إِنَّهُ كَانَ صَادِقَ الْوَعْدِ. Imagine how well these books would sell: Mockingbirds and Trials and Families. Syracuse football: Dungey, Ishmael could climb record books New, 23 comments A new offense means some all-time Syracuse records are going to fall this year. The teacher in Ishmael had to be one of those neighbors—a nonhuman. Your novel Ishmael leaves me wondering how, as an individual, can I go about effecting change. Thank you, I am definitely going to check out his books now after seeing that. The Haunting of Lin-Manuel Miranda is a play by American writer Ishmael Reed.It critiques the acclaimed historical musical Hamilton (2015) through a depiction of a fictionalized version of Hamilton ' s creator Lin-Manuel Miranda, who is visited by several historical figures missing from the musical in a style similar to Dickens' A Christmas Carol. Mutual Aid: A Factor in Evolution (you have to get past dated language but its good). [Coffee swallowing.] Among those neighbors none is more impressive and authoritative than a gorilla (which is why I chose to make Ishmael a gorilla rather than, say, a parrot or a salmon or a butterfly). It was very intriguing so I read some of his others on my own, My Ishmael(sequel), Story of B, and After Dachua all are great reads that give great perceptive. Participation is encouraged regardless of how far you've gotten in the (audio)book. I am familiar with much of the literature that supports this apocalyptic vision. Thanks for the recommendations. I think there is a huge audience for which, for various reasons, actual books on philosophy will never be very accessible. E.g. Ishmael Beah: The use of dreaming was and remains important to me. This book is based on the story of a young soldier who ran away from his village when he was 12 years old. This is the full version the rest of part one. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Indeed, my Lord is the Hearer of supplication. Ishmael by Daniel Quinn (buy on Bookshop from $16.56) is a work of philosophical ecofiction that was published in 1992.Written as a Socratic dialogue between a gorilla with the ability to speak telepathically, Ishmael, and an unnamed narrator, the book argues that the way modern humans live is unsustainable. Final Thoughts. 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